My Missouri mesothelioma attorney would be very happy to retire when it comes to cancer lawsuits, but he also said that anticipating the current medical care system and the companies... there will be lots of trials.
Great stuff.. I never thought this was feasible. Yamaha
Some Jabronie | Wed, 09/10/2008 - 16:10
Wow..This is an awesome way to find a way for the current gas crisis. Glyco nutrients
Some Jabronie | Wed, 09/10/2008 - 11:30
Intresting stuff.. Proper usage of saltwater can help us reduce the fuel crisis. Iveco Vans
Some Jabronie | Wed, 08/13/2008 - 03:56
you're all idiots! the energy of the flame comes from the "radio frequency generator". you can't get energy chemically out of salt water, it's inert! this is like saying, when I boil water in the microwave, the water gets hot without using any energy. NO! You have to plug in the microwave, just like this guy has to plug in his machine.
Some Jabronie | Tue, 08/12/2008 - 22:01
Gotta love all of the innovations people are coming up with. I love new inventions, it is very interesting learning about things that you would never think are possible. mycapitalonecard.com
Some Jabronie | Tue, 08/12/2008 - 22:00
Gotta love all of the innovations people are coming up with. I love new inventions, it is very interesting learning about things that you would never think are possible.
Some Jabronie | Tue, 07/15/2008 - 16:56
The village, now, tries to tackle this problem with a "mix of tutorials on using the Internet to overcome past problems in finding healthy fun outdoors, demonstrations of new activities and technologies like geo-caching which add fun for younger Americans in the outdoors, a large fishing pond with trout and interactive exhibits delivering proof of the fun of recreation."inchirieri masini
Some Jabronie | Thu, 07/10/2008 - 13:14
All carbon-based life forms from microorganisms to animals and humans—depend on and use fuels as their source of energy. inchirieri masini
Some Jabronie | Wed, 07/02/2008 - 14:51
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Some Jabronie | Thu, 06/05/2008 - 20:28
I bet the US government wants to buy this so they can turn the ocean into a flaming bomb and blow up the world. Or Exxon will purchase it and lock it away like all the other patents it owns.
Shame on this guy for saying he will sell it to anyone. By the way its been a year, and nothing has come from this technology. HMMMMM.......
POOR CHAP HOPE HE DONT GT MURRED BY THESE OIL BARRNES
Some Jabronie | Thu, 10/25/2007 - 21:37
NEED MORE INFORMATION
Some Jabronie | Thu, 10/25/2007 - 21:37
need more information
Some Jabronie | Fri, 10/05/2007 - 22:36
mmm sodium chloride in the air.... good for everybody!
Brian | Fri, 09/28/2007 - 14:53
What we need to know is at what frequency and how much power in watts was needed to do this
hi | Wed, 08/29/2007 - 22:06
hahaha
some Mid-schooler | Sat, 08/04/2007 - 06:41
Water is a very stable compound, and to break it into it's basic elements should require a great deal of energy, even more so if you plan on breaking it apart using some form of mechanical force, ie. transmitting radio waves produced from an electronic transmitter.
For those who believe it would work if the combusion of the "salt water" could fuel and engine aswell as create some sort of electrolysis to break apart the water, then there is little understanding of basic physics, where as you cannot add set energy boundaries on one side of the equation and expect there to be a greater value on the other side of the equal sign. Harnessing all the power from this proccess would be extremely difficult, energy would be lost from radio waves that don't contribute towards "elecrolysis," and from the light and other forms of energy given off that aren't readily usable by a combustion engine, but I am rather young and there is a great deal that I don't understand about this proccess, so I hope that some effort is made to research and develope a more efficient and cleaner fuel.
SiriS | Tue, 07/31/2007 - 16:57
To everyone who is saying that this isn't a big deal because it's simply an energy converter, you're missing the point.
This innovation allows energy to be stored and released as heat much more efficiently than electrolysis. The only reason gasoline is used is it's convenience as a highly flammable liquid, even though there are much better/cleaner energy sources. By using electricity to create flames in this manner, we can use clean energy sources such as solar energy or hydro-electricity.
Some Jabronie | Sat, 07/28/2007 - 15:51
Water powered engines have been around for over 100 years. Ask your local oil company why we dont see it in the market. These converters are relatively easy to make, 9th grade science, and can be affixed to older model cars easily as well.
a hybrid saltwater/electric car, the motor could charge the batteries as well!? people have to come together and make sure big oil doesn't burry this amazing discovery! Send this around to everyone you know!!!!!
Nobby | Sun, 07/22/2007 - 23:45
the salt water may be clean but system uses electricity to run RF wave generator. does it use more power than it makes?
Some Jabronie | Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:58
THE AMA AND OIL COMPANIES WILL SEE THIS NEVER MAKES A FAIR MARKET PLACE
Some Jabronie | Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:57
A oil company would buy it an shelve it Not to mention
AMA will never let cancer become cure too big a money maker sorrry to be so cold
Some Jabronie | Sat, 07/21/2007 - 20:57
A oil company would buy it an shelve it Not to mention
AMA will never let cancer become cure too big a money maker sorrry to be so cold
Patrick | Sat, 07/21/2007 - 15:16
Not new, (see Wiki link) and potentially, the radio waves release the hydrogen and oxygen bond at a much lower level of energy than electrolysis. If this is the case, as very many are already attesting, then we may be on to something. But there may be a reason we are not seeing it (second link)
The analyses given by some commentators here is rather glib. There is really insufficient data to explain what is really happening here.
DD | Sat, 07/21/2007 - 01:57
This doesn't mean much, it takes energy to make the radio waves; more then you are getting out from the flame.
Some Jabronie | Fri, 07/20/2007 - 23:50
FYI... Water is not an element.
Goid | Wed, 07/18/2007 - 07:50
hopefully bush doesn't hear about this... he will probably take it and use it for his war. think about it why would he take this and obliterate the use of oil? Thats how he gets his money,
K V Ramani, rajampro@yahoo.com | Wed, 07/18/2007 - 07:48
Amazing ! This is how America should lead the world ! Is President Bush Listening ?
What is holding up the commercialistion of this amazing invention ?
Some Jabronie | Wed, 07/18/2007 - 07:40
Amazing ! This is how America should lead the world ! Is President Bush Listening ?
What is holding up the commercialistion of this amazing invention ?
JoblessPunk | Wed, 07/18/2007 - 06:24
Fuck man, I really the gas companies wont kill this guy like they did the other guy that invented a car that ran on water using electrolysis...
wow | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 20:39
awesome
Marty | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 15:17
"Could use a battery to power the radio waves to maintain combustion? Battery could recharge it self as you drive."
True, but that would only work if the combustion reaction released enough energy to both drive the vehicle and power the battery. The combustion reaction would have to release significantly more energy than is being put into it by the radio waves.
Possible, but unlikely (see my previous post). A simple experiment measuring the heat output would give you an answer quite quickly.
Some Jabronie | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 14:02
Could use a battery to power the radio waves to maintain combustion? Battery could recharge it self as you drive.
Jimmy | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 12:51
Anyone with a basic understanding of the laws of energy conservation can see that this is just stupid reporters coming up with some quick 5 minute filler for their show, preying on the fact that most people out there do not understand basic physics, or do not have the capacity to recognise that having to use radio waves to maintain combustion makes this an energy converting system, not an energy producing system.
Dobbs_Head | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 12:04
How stupid can these reporters be? The RF generator was energy input, using energy from the electrical grid. The laws of conservation and entropy demand that should you measure the watt-hours of energy going into the RF generator, it will be less than the energy in heat and light coming out of the flame. Don't get me wrong, this is a really cool way to couple RF radiation with a chemical reaction, but it cannot be used as an energy source.
Marty | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 09:33
Alas, I suspect that AttemptingReason is probably right. However the video doesn't show quite enough detail to be sure. We'd really need to see an energy balance equation for the whole system (energy produced from combustion minus energy going in from radio waves) to know for sure.
It appears (though again, can't be sure from the video) that the reaction only happens while the radio waves are being applied (contrast this to a fossil fuel, where the reaction continues by itself after the initial spark / flame is removed). This means that the salt water reaction is continuously consuming radio wave energy, and we need to know how much it's consuming before we get excited.
AttemptingReason | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 09:06
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but salt water isn't fuel. The neat effect is most likely caused by the energy of the radio waves, which is ultimately just power from the grid, splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burning them again. The salt might be acting as a sort of catalyst for the reaction, and is probably what makes the flame so different from a regular, blue hydrogen flame. This might be an interesting way to 'broadcast' a flame, but it won't work as a fuel because all the energy comes from the radio signal.
Darian Knight | Tue, 07/17/2007 - 04:31
It would be appropriate for some big oil company to buy it up and lock it away... Saltwater is the most abundant resource on this planet, and would make an excellent fuel.
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My Missouri mesothelioma attorney would be very happy to retire when it comes to cancer lawsuits, but he also said that anticipating the current medical care system and the companies... there will be lots of trials.
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Yeah... I have to be on the side of the skeptics here.
This goes against the fundamental physical laws of conservation and entropy, and is thus not viable as a true energy source.
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Great stuff.. I never thought this was feasible.
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Wow..This is an awesome way to find a way for the current gas crisis.
Glyco nutrients
Intresting stuff.. Proper usage of saltwater can help us reduce the fuel crisis.
Iveco Vans
you're all idiots! the energy of the flame comes from the "radio frequency generator". you can't get energy chemically out of salt water, it's inert! this is like saying, when I boil water in the microwave, the water gets hot without using any energy. NO! You have to plug in the microwave, just like this guy has to plug in his machine.
Gotta love all of the innovations people are coming up with. I love new inventions, it is very interesting learning about things that you would never think are possible. mycapitalonecard.com
Gotta love all of the innovations people are coming up with. I love new inventions, it is very interesting learning about things that you would never think are possible.
The village, now, tries to tackle this problem with a "mix of tutorials on using the Internet to overcome past problems in finding healthy fun outdoors, demonstrations of new activities and technologies like geo-caching which add fun for younger Americans in the outdoors, a large fishing pond with trout and interactive exhibits delivering proof of the fun of recreation."inchirieri masini
All carbon-based life forms from microorganisms to animals and humans—depend on and use fuels as their source of energy. inchirieri masini
A scooter is a style of two-wheeled motor vehicle traditionally defined by characteristics such as a step-through frame, wheels less than 16" in diameter, and an engine located below the rider and to the rear. link building specialist
I bet the US government wants to buy this so they can turn the ocean into a flaming bomb and blow up the world. Or Exxon will purchase it and lock it away like all the other patents it owns.
Shame on this guy for saying he will sell it to anyone. By the way its been a year, and nothing has come from this technology. HMMMMM.......
You can watch a video about saving gas here:
http://fuelfreedomworld.com/
ok its not with water but it could seve up to 14%
POOR CHAP HOPE HE DONT GT MURRED BY THESE OIL BARRNES
NEED MORE INFORMATION
need more information
mmm sodium chloride in the air.... good for everybody!
What we need to know is at what frequency and how much power in watts was needed to do this
hahaha
Water is a very stable compound, and to break it into it's basic elements should require a great deal of energy, even more so if you plan on breaking it apart using some form of mechanical force, ie. transmitting radio waves produced from an electronic transmitter.
For those who believe it would work if the combusion of the "salt water" could fuel and engine aswell as create some sort of electrolysis to break apart the water, then there is little understanding of basic physics, where as you cannot add set energy boundaries on one side of the equation and expect there to be a greater value on the other side of the equal sign. Harnessing all the power from this proccess would be extremely difficult, energy would be lost from radio waves that don't contribute towards "elecrolysis," and from the light and other forms of energy given off that aren't readily usable by a combustion engine, but I am rather young and there is a great deal that I don't understand about this proccess, so I hope that some effort is made to research and develope a more efficient and cleaner fuel.
To everyone who is saying that this isn't a big deal because it's simply an energy converter, you're missing the point.
This innovation allows energy to be stored and released as heat much more efficiently than electrolysis. The only reason gasoline is used is it's convenience as a highly flammable liquid, even though there are much better/cleaner energy sources. By using electricity to create flames in this manner, we can use clean energy sources such as solar energy or hydro-electricity.
Water powered engines have been around for over 100 years. Ask your local oil company why we dont see it in the market. These converters are relatively easy to make, 9th grade science, and can be affixed to older model cars easily as well.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/354/C8115/
http://easygrowhouseplants.blogspot.com/2006/12/inventor-of-water-powere...
http://www.hydropowercar.com/
a hybrid saltwater/electric car, the motor could charge the batteries as well!? people have to come together and make sure big oil doesn't burry this amazing discovery! Send this around to everyone you know!!!!!
the salt water may be clean but system uses electricity to run RF wave generator. does it use more power than it makes?
THE AMA AND OIL COMPANIES WILL SEE THIS NEVER MAKES A FAIR MARKET PLACE
A oil company would buy it an shelve it Not to mention
AMA will never let cancer become cure too big a money maker sorrry to be so cold
A oil company would buy it an shelve it Not to mention
AMA will never let cancer become cure too big a money maker sorrry to be so cold
Not new, (see Wiki link) and potentially, the radio waves release the hydrogen and oxygen bond at a much lower level of energy than electrolysis. If this is the case, as very many are already attesting, then we may be on to something. But there may be a reason we are not seeing it (second link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fuel_cell
http://pesn.com/2006/06/02/9500276_Water_fuel_experimenter_threatened/
The analyses given by some commentators here is rather glib. There is really insufficient data to explain what is really happening here.
This doesn't mean much, it takes energy to make the radio waves; more then you are getting out from the flame.
FYI... Water is not an element.
hopefully bush doesn't hear about this... he will probably take it and use it for his war. think about it why would he take this and obliterate the use of oil? Thats how he gets his money,
Amazing ! This is how America should lead the world ! Is President Bush Listening ?
What is holding up the commercialistion of this amazing invention ?
Amazing ! This is how America should lead the world ! Is President Bush Listening ?
What is holding up the commercialistion of this amazing invention ?
Fuck man, I really the gas companies wont kill this guy like they did the other guy that invented a car that ran on water using electrolysis...
awesome
"Could use a battery to power the radio waves to maintain combustion? Battery could recharge it self as you drive."
True, but that would only work if the combustion reaction released enough energy to both drive the vehicle and power the battery. The combustion reaction would have to release significantly more energy than is being put into it by the radio waves.
Possible, but unlikely (see my previous post). A simple experiment measuring the heat output would give you an answer quite quickly.
Could use a battery to power the radio waves to maintain combustion? Battery could recharge it self as you drive.
Anyone with a basic understanding of the laws of energy conservation can see that this is just stupid reporters coming up with some quick 5 minute filler for their show, preying on the fact that most people out there do not understand basic physics, or do not have the capacity to recognise that having to use radio waves to maintain combustion makes this an energy converting system, not an energy producing system.
How stupid can these reporters be? The RF generator was energy input, using energy from the electrical grid. The laws of conservation and entropy demand that should you measure the watt-hours of energy going into the RF generator, it will be less than the energy in heat and light coming out of the flame. Don't get me wrong, this is a really cool way to couple RF radiation with a chemical reaction, but it cannot be used as an energy source.
Alas, I suspect that AttemptingReason is probably right. However the video doesn't show quite enough detail to be sure. We'd really need to see an energy balance equation for the whole system (energy produced from combustion minus energy going in from radio waves) to know for sure.
It appears (though again, can't be sure from the video) that the reaction only happens while the radio waves are being applied (contrast this to a fossil fuel, where the reaction continues by itself after the initial spark / flame is removed). This means that the salt water reaction is continuously consuming radio wave energy, and we need to know how much it's consuming before we get excited.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but salt water isn't fuel. The neat effect is most likely caused by the energy of the radio waves, which is ultimately just power from the grid, splitting the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burning them again. The salt might be acting as a sort of catalyst for the reaction, and is probably what makes the flame so different from a regular, blue hydrogen flame. This might be an interesting way to 'broadcast' a flame, but it won't work as a fuel because all the energy comes from the radio signal.
It would be appropriate for some big oil company to buy it up and lock it away... Saltwater is the most abundant resource on this planet, and would make an excellent fuel.